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Shimano® Saros F Spinning Reels
- One of the toughest, smoothest reels in its class
- Exclusive Paladin® Gear Durability Enhancement
- 5-component Propulsion® Line Management System
- Shielded A-RB® bearings
- SR®-Concept design
- Fluidrive® II, Dyna-Balance®, Super Stopper® II
- Aluminum frame and spool
The Shimano Saros F is one of the toughest, smoothest spinning reels in its class. Technological advances include Shimano's exclusive Paladin® Gear Durability Enhancement, with cold-forged aluminum drive gear and hardened brass alloy pinion gear for [Read More]
- One of the toughest, smoothest reels in its class
- Exclusive Paladin® Gear Durability Enhancement
- 5-component Propulsion® Line Management System
- Shielded A-RB® bearings
- SR®-Concept design
- Fluidrive® II, Dyna-Balance®, Super Stopper® II
- Aluminum frame and spool
The Shimano Saros F is one of the toughest, smoothest spinning reels in its class. Technological advances include Shimano's exclusive Paladin® Gear Durability Enhancement, with cold-forged aluminum drive gear and hardened brass alloy pinion gear for long-term smoothness, and the 5-component Propulsion® Line Management System which reduces line friction, twist, and backlashes while increasing casting distance. Aluminum frame and spool; shielded A-RB® bearings; Fluidrive® II; Dyna-Balance®; Super Stopper® II; and waterproof front drag. Free spare aluminum spool is included.
Shimano SR®-Concept combines the new concept of Reliance with all aspects of the S®-Concept: smooth, silent and strong. This results in an oversized SR-3D gear drive, SR Handle which screws directly into the drive gear, SR One-Piece Bail Wire with no gaps to snag line or create additional friction.
Propulsion® Line Mangement System: Five key components (spool lip, bail wire, roller, bail trip and cam) have been completely redesigned to reduce friction and promote uniformity of line movement. The result: more distance, less friction, fewer backlashes and wind knots, and greatly reduced line twist.
Super Stopper II is Shimano’s exclusive instant anti-reverse system. Built with a one-way roller bearing that eliminates all back-play in the handle—for instant hooksetting power.
Power Roller: Part of the Propulsion Line Management System, Power Roller reduces line twist by as much as 50%. Special grooved design assures that the line will wrap evenly on the spool.
Dyna-Balance® eliminates wobble on the retrieve by counter-balancing the rotor to enhance sensitivity and smoothness. 100% computer balanced!
Fluidrive® II gearing means that your reel was manufactured with the highest tolerances and utmost control in the gear-cutting process, to ensure a smooth, powerful retrieve every time.
Line recovery in inches per handle turn.
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The directions with the Shimano Saros cover front and back spooling. What are the advantages of doing this?
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The directions mention flurocarbon handles better front spooled. Can anyone explain why this works. Any advice on Braid or Mono being either front, back or flat loaded? They are not covered in the directions. Thanks!
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My advice is to not mess with the supplied washers unless you feel it is necessary. I have heard that sometimes they make things better and other times they make things worse. My older Stradic FH required a washer to get the braid loaded on flat because it suddenly began top loading line, this resulted in occasional wind knots when I put on an a lot of braid.Fluoro has a tendency to be stiff so maybe Shimano figured that if the line lay is v-shaped rather than bottom loaded it would come over the spool lip more easily.
I would load both mono and braid on flat. When line lay gets loose when it is bottom spooled it occasionally gets under the rotor when not carefully watched.
I hope this helps
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I fish inshore saltwater for speckled trout, redfish, and the occasional ladyfish(even though I don't try to catch them.) I use a 7'0 Medium Heavy Penn Pursuit Spinning Rod. I will be using 14 lb test monofilament or 17 lb test monofilament. I was wondering what would be the best sized reel for these applications. I was thinking about getting a 4000 size. Any help would be appreciated! Thanks!Answers
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A 4000 size is way too small for that pound test. The spool diameter will be too narrow and you will find that no matter how hard you cast the friction created on the small spool lip will stop your lure from reaching its optimal distance.If you switch to braided line (either 15lb test or 20lb test) a 3000 or 4000 Saros would be fine.
If you are committed to mono then I would suggest the Shimano Spheros in either the 5000 or 6000 size, which will be a lot heavier than a 3000 or the significantly bulkier 4000 Saros.
You can get away with less line capacity if you are truly going to stick with reds and trout but even a big snook could "spool you" if you have less than 150 yards of 14lb test. I like to have around 200 yards of whatever line I am throwing, that way I can make long casts with relative ease and still have enough on the spool to land an oversized fish.
If you can find the previous versions of the Shimano Stradic (4000 or 5000 FH or FI) I would go with that. The new Stradics are pretty pricey and because they are so new to the scene the jury is still out on their reliability.
I hope this helps.
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I fish from a kayak in the Mosquito Lagoon/IRL/Banana River and use a Sedona 4000 series and an Abu Garcia 102 (2000 series). I actually prefer the 102 on a 7' Medium Ugly Stick. Have caught up to 27" reds on the 102, with no problems and a lot of fun. I use 17 lb braid on both reels.Details:
many times i have casted out this reel with my 30 lb power pro braid and most times it had a lot of resistance but there was nothing touching the lure. id like to know what that is all aboutAnswers
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your line is too heavy for this reel. That and you probably don't maintain your reel.
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That's hard to say. If you are used to monofilament then you will find braided line much coarser than mono or fluorocarbon. I would suggest regular applications of Abu Garcia reel oil to ensure smooth performance and years of great usage. I am not sure what size reel you are using but I would not recommend 30lb powerpro for sizes smaller than the 5000. I personally prefer 20lb braid for my 3000 and 4000 size shimanos. Please let me know if this helps.A:
the line is looping over the line roller and causing the resistance. If that isn't the problem look at the tip of the rod and see if you have a groove cut in to the eyelit. braid will chew up inferior equipment. Good look. Last it could be a bearing in the reel its self but I find that not too common.Answers
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no. none of the frames are aluminum
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All of the profiles should come with the same frame material
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Yes.•Aluminum Frame
•Graphite Sideplate
•Graphite Rotor
•Aluminum Spool
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I am interested in learning to skip baits. I read that a large diameter spool was better for this technique. does anyone have any experience using one of these reels for skipping under boat docks? I am thinking the 3000 would be a good choice. I will be using it for Largemouth and Spotted bass.Answers
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I would agree that a spinning reel is far more trouble free than a baitcasting reel when it comes to skipping (although it can be done).Be aware that the 2500 Saros and the 3000 Saros are the same reel. The only difference being the depth of the spool not the width. I prefer the 3000 size due to its versatility. With the 3000 size you can spool it with 8lb, 10lb, or possibly 12lb fluoro or mono. You can also use 20lb braid for both freshwater and smaller saltwater species.
Skipping has more to do with rod positioning and a quick, clean, snap cast that is low to the water. I position my body low and cast horizontally over the water aiming just below the dock. The first skip is the most important. If the bait skips too far in front of the dock it will make a huge splash or hop into the air and bang off the front of the dock. In either case it will alert the fish. Try using a low profile soft plastic, texas rigged or on a jig head for an easily skippable projectile.
I hope this helps,
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It has a lot to do with more factors than just arbor size, The Soros or symetre have a slow ossalation and lay line very good on the spool.If you use good line and spool it properly it will cast just as far as a large arbor reel and very few pigtails.
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This reel skips baits as good as any. I had three 2500 reels until someone stole all 25 of my rod and reels. After insurance replaced my stuff, I went one step up to the Stradics. I got to say, I liked the Saros's as much as the Stradics even though there was a price differance. I forgot to mention, I have been a Quantum guy since '95 and I also have some Energy's but, I reach for my Shimano's first when I need a spinning reel. Hope this helps.Images for this Answer
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i use daiwa reels, but i also have a few shimano reels too and any reel will allow you to skip lures or baits under anything. its not the reel as much as the person using it!!! just practice and you will be doing it with a snoopy rod.!!!Details:
I like the way the Saros looks. Both seem smoot in the store. Basically Shimano vs. Pfluger. Thoughts?Answers
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I would pick shimano over pflueger quality/durability any day of the week
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The Saros is a better reel than the Supreme. If you are talking about the new Supreme XT then that is a different story. I would go with it.A:
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Shimano all the way. I've had shimanos for a while and none of them have let me down. Kept my Saros for 3 years and only 2 scratches and no services yet. dont get me wrong, pflueger makes quality reels, but I would just stick with the long lasting reliablity of shimano
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I am a hard core Quantum guy. As far as spinning gear goes, I have been using the Energy reel which is on the upper end of their reel line. One day I saw a Saros at the store. I picked it up and played with it. I was like you, I liked the way the reel looked. I ended up buying that reel. I planned on using it for Smallmouth fishing. After one year of using the reel, I now have 3 Saros reels and 3 Stratic reels. I don't like the Stratics any more than the Saros reel even though there is a small price difference. Great reel and yes, I did cheat on Quantum. Go for it buddy, I don't think you will be disapointed.Images for this Answer
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Saros for castability, Supreme for weight. I have both. I like using the supremes and patriarch when jigging as it is light so you can hold them all day. When I have to cast any distances and do a lot of retrieving, I like Shimano all the way. Buy a CI4 and it is the best of both worlds.Details:
I fish for bass a lot but i still want to reel in some big cats with this reel.which one should i get? what do you recomend for maintenance?Images for this Question
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prob the 3000 if you want to fight for both. regrease the reel when you can and put on new line...that's all you really have to do to them.
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I fish 5 days a week 52 weeks a year and have my reels serviced twice a year professionally. That works out fine for me.A:
I would get the 3000. Its a tough reel and can hold up to pressure. Also it doesnt matter what the line rating is on eht e reel. You can always put on heavier line.
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I would stick with the 3000, it will hold enough line for those big cats and will still handle lighter line for fines styke fishing for bass. Also, when it come to maintenance on any Shimano, don't worry about it! They are built with the "Fluidrive" system and what this means is it needs no maintenance at all! They are built extremely tough and will last a long time with out needing any attention. But if you do feel like you need to help it out a bit, just put a few drops of the oil that is provided in the maintenance port by the handle.....that is it, very simple stuff :)Cheers
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If so, what type of rod did use and how did it work?Answers
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I would definitely go with the 2500 for walleye instead of the smaller 1000...as far as rods go, you need some backbone and faster action tips.A:
i fish walleye alot (hence my screen name) and i would not reccomend any reel smaller than a 2000 series. not saying it wont work but go with a 2000 series reel and pair it up with a med action rod and your good to go. also need to know what type of fishing are you doing?(boat, shore casting? trolling?) that is critical information!!!
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Yep, if you're rigging or short pitching for all but the largest of walleye, the 1000 series of any Shimano is good. The drag is about 7lbs though. The 2500 is 12ish. It won't hold a tonne of line (110 yrds of 6lb), but that's good enough for lindy rigging or jigging from a boat. I have 4 1000 series of different Shimanos and none have let me down. I don't go after the pike with them or cast long distances. Spool is too small to facilitate long casting and volume of line.Q:
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Which model of the Saros would be good for general use in New England lakes and streams?
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Not sure what your catching in new england streams but for most fish 10lbs and under you cant go wrong with the 2500 or 3000. I have the 3000 and chose that due to the extra line capacity and the handle design at only 0.2 oz more weight than the 2500 it seemed like the right choice. I have had it for 2 seasons now it's been greatA:
I use the 4000 and fish Maine lakes. It really depends on what your fishing for. If your bass fishing I would stick with the 4000. If you fish for trout I would get atleast a 3000. 4000 feels great!
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All around models would be a 2500 model in Shimano reels. 30 model in Pfleuger, 20 in Quantum.You can go as light as 6lb test and up to 10-12. Will work on a Light to Med rod. Perch to Bass, Pickerel, Trout.
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neither is per say better than the other....the numbers stand for the size of the reel, so the 4000 will be a bigger profile than the 3000. The 2500 and 3000 would be good for bass/walleye/and other fish of that same size...but the 4000 might be better for musky/pike/bigger catfish.A:
both the same reel just bigger gearing and spools, so go for either!!!!!!A:
It depends on what your fishing for. The 3000 is nice for multiple species of fish big and small. The 4000 would be best for larger fish like pike, salmon, or flathead catfish. I don't know what you fish the most for but if it's largemouth, smallmouth, walleye, channel catfish, even perch the 3000 or even 2500 would both be a better choice than the 4000 I just like the extra line capasity and handle on the 3000 over the 2500
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The only thing the 4000 is better for is holding a bit more line. They are the same otherwise.Not sure what you mean by "better".
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